Dr. Anton Chuvakin, Security Solution Strategist at Google Cloud joins the show to talk about security by design, building and securing the cloud and highlights the challenge is how do we determine who is responsible for what in the cloud. James Azar, CISO and host and Dr. Chuvakin also discuss the challenges of the supply chain and that many small orgs face in addressing security concerns and share some interesting problem-solving ideas and Dr. Chuvakin shares the latest development and drops some hints on the GCP platform